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Re: Re: 4 Common Edge, Market Drayton
Posted by Member: Christine Wibberley
When: 18/07/2010 20:00:10
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Hi Michael, Again that's interesting. If you look on the website I referred to it implies that some of the post 1904 addresses appearing on birth/death certificates of those unfortunate enough to be born or even more unfortunate to die in a work house were entirely fictitious in that no address actually existed. It does seem however that in some (all?) there was an element of truth or semi truth in that whilst the address was not the actual address of the workhouse it did have something to do with the workhouse vicinity. I will try and find out more from the website about these addresses generally. I have just come across a thread on Rootschat www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=n7c6mom60iq99miojv562ihkt5&topic=461231.0 This posting is about a death at 4 Common Edge but as late as 1943 which I find a little surprising. I will get the death certificate out! In response to: Just reviewed an obituary in Market Dayton paper (Nov 1958) about a Mr. Robert George Holland passing away at age 86. "...For about 25 years up to his retirement at the age of 80, he was emplyed as a gardener at Miss Beeston's Holly House, Little Drayton,...." . Mr Holland married my Gran in 1940, they lived on buntingsdale roed next to the common. I understand Beestons operated a "workhouse/home" and as much as they could they grew produce for their own use in establishment - located on the other side of the road from 'The Common" - Could this be the same place as 4 Common Edge?, although I don't recall that name being used. Gran used to refer to the 'workhouse' as being a haven of last resort. Michaelg In response to: Hi Brian That's interesting. Please see my posting below about www.workhouses.org.uk If you have a certificate with the address on they would be pleased to hear from you as I notice that Market Drayton isn't on the list of addresses and it seems that the site would like to add to its list. I had gathered originally that the addresses in the list of workhouse addresses on the site were entirely fictional. On an examination of the list this is not invariably the case because I do know that Bury (Lancs) Union Workhouse, now Fairfield Hospital Bury, though the official address is now Rochdale Old Road has some parts abutting onto Broad Oak Lane. Market Drayton Workhouse after the abolition of workhouses became a public assistance institution and was then known as Quarry House. My grandfather George Higgins lived there for a time and died there and his sister Mary Higgins lived there. I remember going with my parents to take her for days out, the buildings arranged round a (presumably workhouse exercise) yard and even then, the 1960s, the elderly lady residents sleeping in a dormitory, not so very different from photos of workhouses in the latter stages of the regime. The stigma of the workhouse must have remained despite the end of the system because when Mary Higgins died in 1969 her niece who registered her death said that Mary was still living at her old home, Lilac Cottage Stoke Heath, though she had not done so for some years. In response to: I've just heard from a contact that "4 Common Edge" was the euphemistic address used by Market Drayton workhouse to disguise its function. I'm grateful to him, and to Michael J Hulme in my previous thread, for solving this Loftus Radcliffe puzzle. Brian Jones
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