Edward GARDNER & Ann LAWLY

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peggy
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My gg-grandfather Edward born1848 in Church Stretten to William Garner (note surname spelling) & Ellen Adams. He married Ann Lawly in 1870, surname spelled Gardner on record. I have the 1871 census for them. They had children Frederick William (born 1871 Shrewsbury), Mary Ellen (born 1873 Atcham) & Goody Selena (born 1874 Union Workhouse). He emmigrated in 1879-1880 with his son. I find border crossing record for Frederick from Canada into USA in 1880, but have not found for Edward. Then have 2nd marriage of Edward in 1880 in USA. I find the 1881 census records for the two daughters in Union Workhouse. 1891, Selena is a domestic servant in a private home. Mary Ellen/Helen is still in the workhouse with a daughter, Mable. She later has another child, Lucy. I have the marriages of all three of the children & their families thereafter.

What I am looking for is any record of Ann Lawly Gardner after 1874. Also, is there any record indicating when Edward emmigrated. In the 1871 census, it says he worked for the railway. Another person has posted in his tree a newspaper clipping that says Edward Gardner of Sutton Lane, Shrewsbury, no longer responsible for any debts that my wife, Ann Gardner, may contract after this date--dated Feb 11, 1874.

Surname spellings - Gardner, Garner, Gardiner, Gardener

Any info that you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Peggy

johnp3
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Hi Peggy, I've done some research for you, and i think that Ann (nee Lawley) Gardner probably when ingocnito after 1874.  I could only find a possible sighting of her in the 1881 Cens.

Much of the below you will know already, But the baptism's might be new to you & Edward was listed as a Labourer in 1874. I do have a lot more info on Ann Lawley's siblings if you would like it.

Best Regards

J.P.J

Possible Sighting:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26, Cannon Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Henry J    Oldman    Head    Married    Male    34    1847    Publican    Thorpe, Suffolk, England
Clara M    Oldman    Wife    Married    Female    28    1853    -    Madeley, Shropshire, England
Harry D    Oldman    Son    Single    Male    5    1876    -    Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Florence M    Oldman    Daughter    Single    Female    2    1879    -    Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Herbert J    Oldman    Son    Single    Male    0    1881    -    Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Reginald    Lealand    Nephew    Single    Male    5    1876    -    St Georges, Shropshire, England
Annie    Gardner    Servant    Single    Female    33    1848    Barmaid Inn Serv    Salop, England
Mary A    Ball    Servant    Single    Female    23    1858    Cook Dom    Solihull
Sarah J    Greenwood    Servant    Single    Female    20    1861    Waitress Inn Serv    Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Anne A    Daniels    Servant    Single    Female    15    1866    Nurse Dom    Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Ann/Annie Lawley's family of origin etc:

Marriage:
First name(s)    John      Occ:Servant
Last name    Lawley    X
Age    Full
Marriage year    1845
Marriage date    05 Jun 1845
Marriage place    Rushbury
Denomination    Anglican
Residence    Wall's Bank
Father's first name(s)    Edward   Occ:Labourer
Father's last name    Lawley
Spouse's first name(s)    Ann    X
Spouse's last name    Jones
Spouse's residence    Wall's Bank
Spouse's age    Full
Spouse's father's first name(s)    Matthew  Occ:Thatcher
Spouse's father's last name    Jones
County    Shropshire
Register date range    1837-1900
Archive reference    P233/A/3/4
Page    13
Register type    Marriage
Record set    Shropshire Marriages

Birth:
First name(s)    Ann
Last name    Lawley
Birth quarter    4
Birth year    1848
Mother's maiden name    Jones
District    Church Stretton
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    18
Page    33
Record set    England & Wales Births 1837-2006

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rushbury, Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John    Lawley    Head    Married    Male    27    1824    Agricultural Laborer    Rushbury, Shropshire, England
Ann    Lawley    Wife    Married    Female    37    1814    -    Eaton, Shropshire, England
Ann    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    3    1848    -    Rushbury, Shropshire, England
William    Lawley    Son    -    Male    3 Mths    1851    -    Rushbury, Shropshire, England

1861 Cens:
Name:     Ann Lawley
Age:     14
Estimated Birth Year:     1847
Relation:     Daughter
Father's Name:     John Lawley
Mother's Name:     Ann Lawley
Gender:     Female
Where born:     Rushbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:     Rushbury
County/Island:     Shropshire
Country:     England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:     
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Registration District:     Church Stretton
Sub-registration District:     Wall
ED, institution, or vessel:     1
Neighbors:     
Household Schedule Number:     90
Piece:     1845
Folio:     14
Page Number:     21
Household Members:     
Name     Age
John Lawley     36
Ann Lawley     40
William Lawley     12
Ann Lawley     14
Mary Lawley     10
William Andrewich     4
Edmond Carewell     40
Henry Carewell     4
 
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Roman Bank, Rushbury, Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John    Lawley    Head    -    Male    52    1819    -  Ag Lab  Shropshire, England
Ann    Lawley    Wife    -    Female    58    1813    -    Shropshire, England
Mary    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    19    1852    -    Shropshire, England
William    Anderson    Boarder    -    Male    14    1857    - Railway Porter    Not Known

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Ann Lawley & Edward Gardner & family:

Marriage:
First name(s)    Edward
Last name    Gardner
Marriage quarter    3
Marriage year    1870
Registration month    -
MarriageFinder ™
Edward Gardner married
Annie Lawley
District    Shrewsbury
District number    -
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    6A
Volume as transcribed    6A
Page number    1077
Record set    England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fletchers Buildings, St Mary, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Edward    Gardner    Head    -    Male    22    1849    -Railway Signalman       Church Stretton,Shropshire, England
Ann    Gardner    Wife    -    Female    23    1848    -                     Rushbury,Shropshire, England

Birth:
First name(s)    Frederick William
Last name    Gardener
Birth quarter    2
Birth year    1871
Mother's maiden name    -
District    Shrewsbury
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    6A
Page    698
Record set    England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Baptism:
First name(s)    Frederick William  Abode:Fletcher Buildings
Last name    Gardener
Birth year    1871
Birth date    13 Jun 1871
Baptism year    1871
Baptism date    15 Jun 1871
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Shrewsbury, St Mary's
Father's first name(s)    Edward  Occ: Railway Pointsman
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1871-1900
Archive reference    P257/A/2/4
Page    3
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

Birth:
First name(s)    Mary Helen
Last name    Gardener
Birth quarter    2
Birth year    1873
Mother's maiden name    Lawley
District    Atcham
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    6A
Page    689
Record set    England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Baptism:
First name(s)    Mary Ellen      Abode:Water Street, Castlefields
Last name    Gardiner
Birth year    1873
Birth date    27 Mar 1873
Baptism year    1873
Baptism date    16 Apr 1873
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Shrewsbury, St Mary's
Father's first name(s)    Edward   Occ: Railway Pointsman
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1871-1900
Archive reference    P257/A/2/4
Page    26
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

Birth:
First name(s)    Goody Selina
Last name    Gardiner
Birth quarter    4
Birth year    1874
Mother's maiden name    -
District    Church Stretton
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    6A
Page    601
Record set    England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Baptism:
First name(s)    Goody Selina  Abode:Union Workhouse
Last name    Gardiner
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1874
Baptism date    31 Oct 1874
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Church Stretton
Father's first name(s)    Edward  Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1851-1900
Archive reference    P67/A/2/2
Page    123
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Union Workhouse, Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Goody S
Last name    Gardner
Relationship    Inmate
Marital status    Single
Sex    Female
Age    6
Birth year    1875
Birth town    Church Stretton
Birth town as transcribed    CHURCH STRETTON
Birth county    Shropshire
Birth county as transcribed    SHROPSHIRE
Birth place    England
Occupation    -
House name    Union Workhouse
Street    -
Town    -
Parish    Church Stretton
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Registration district    Church Stretton
Archive reference    RG11
Piece number    2623
Folio    18
Page    27
Record set    1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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1881 Cens:
First name(s)    Mary E
Last name    Gardner
Relationship    Inmate
Marital status    Single
Sex    Female
Age    8
Birth year    1873
Birth town    Church Stretton
Birth town as transcribed    CHURCH STRETTON
Birth county    Shropshire
Birth county as transcribed    SHROPSHIRE
Birth place    England
Occupation    -
House name    Union Workhouse
Street    -
Town    -
Parish    Church Stretton
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Registration district    Church Stretton
Archive reference    RG11
Piece number    2623
Folio    18
Page    27
Record set    1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Birth:
GARDINER, MABEL  SELINA       -      
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in CHURCH STRETTON  Volume 06A  Page 583

Baptism:
First name(s)    Mabel Selina  Illegitimate  Abode:Workhouse
Last name    Gardner
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1891
Baptism date    17 Apr 1891
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Church Stretton
Father's first name(s)    -
Mother's first name(s)    Mary Ellen  Occ: Ind?Worker?
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1851-1900
Archive reference    P67/A/2/2
Page    189
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms
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Thank you for all this added information. Do you know where I can get some info on the Union Workhouse? Mary Ellen seems to have lived there most of her life. I have record of another daughter, Lucy, born to her in 1893. In 1895, she marries a George Bowdler & they have family together with Mabel & Lucy taking on his last name.

I would love to have more information on Ann Lawley's famly. I do have 1851, 1861 & 1871 census. I wonder about the relationship of the William "Andrewich", age 4 on 1861 census & William Anderson, age 14, boarder on 187 census. I sense they are one & same.

With appreciation,

Peggy   

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Hi Peggy, More info on the Lawley Siblings for you.

Best Regards

J.P.J

Baptism:
First name(s)    Mary
Last name    Lawley
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1853
Baptism date    11 Dec 1853
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Rushbury
Father's first name(s)    John
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1813-1864
Archive reference    P233/A/2/1
Page    73
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

Likely:
Marriage:
First name(s)    Mary
Last name    Lawley
Marriage quarter    1
Marriage year    1874
Registration month    -
MarriageFinder ™
Mary Lawley married
Edward Jones
District    Church Stretton
District number    -
County    Shropshire
Country    England
Volume    6A
Volume as transcribed    6A
Page number    855
Record set    England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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1891 Cens:
Name:     Mary Jones
Gender:     Female
Age:     38
Relationship:     Wife
Birth Year:     1853
Spouse:     Edward Jones
Child:     Arthur Jones
George Jones
William Jones
Cornelius Jones
Alfred Jones
Jasper Jones
Birth Place:     Rushbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:     Eaton under Haywood
Ecclesiastical parish:     Eaton
Residence Place:     Eaton under Haywood, Shropshire, England
Registration District:     Church Stretton
Sub registration district:     Wall
ED, Institution or Vessel:     4
Neighbors:     
Piece:     2090
Folio:     32
Household Members:     
Name     Age
Edward Jones     44  Occ:Haulier  Born Eaton-U-Heywood
Mary Jones     38
Arthur Jones     12
George Jones     10
William Jones     8
Cornelius Jones     6
Alfred Jones     4
Jasper Jones     3

1901 Cens:
Name:     Mary Jones
Age:     48
Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1853
Relation to Head:     Wife
Gender:     Female
Spouse:     Edward Jones
Birth Place:     Rushbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:     Eaton under Haywood
Ecclesiastical parish:     Eaton under Haywood
County/Island:     Shropshire
Country:     England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration District:     Church Stretton
Sub-registration District:     Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel:     16
Neighbors:     
Piece:     2514
Folio:     120
Page Number:     7
Household Schedule Number:     48
Household Members:     
Name     Age
Edward Jones     54
Mary Jones     48
Alfred Jones     14
Jasper Jones     13
Robert Jones     9
Mary Jones     8
Edwin Jones     7

1911 Census For England & Wales
Eaton Church Stretton Shropshire, Eaton under Heywood, Shropshire, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Edward    Jones    Head    Married    Male    66    1845    Farm Labour    Soudley Salop  Married 42 (37 Act) Years, 16 Children 3 died
Mary    Jones    Wife    -    Female    60    1851    -    Rushbury Salop
Arthur    Jones    Son    Single    Male    32    1879    Cowman On Farm    Eaton Salop
Alfred    Jones    Son    Single    Male    25    1886    -    Eaton Salop

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Baptism:
First name(s)    William     Abode:Rushbury
Last name    Lawley
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1851
Baptism date    26 Jan 1851
Denomination    Anglican
Place    Rushbury
Father's first name(s)    John  Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s)    Ann
Mother's last name    -
Residence    -
County    Shropshire
Register type    Baptism
Register date range    1813-1864
Archive reference    P233/A/2/1
Page    67
Record set    Shropshire Baptisms

Marriage:
Name:     William Lawley  Occ:Pointsman
Gender:     Male
Marriage Age:     26
Event Type:     Marriage
Birth Year:     abt 1854
Marriage Date:     17 May 1880
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England
Father:     John Lawley  Occ:Labourer
Spouse:     Mary Ann Power

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Heath Lane, Great Boughton, Chester, Cheshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
William    Lawley    Head    Married    Male    40    1851    Railway Pointsman    Rushbury, Shropshire, England
Ann    Lawley    Wife    Married    Female    30    1861    -    Manchester, Lancashire, England
Annie    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    10    1881    Scholar    Hooton, Cheshire, England
William    Lawley    Son    -    Male    9    1882    Scholar    Hooton, Cheshire, England
Mary    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    8    1883    Scholar    Chester, Cheshire, England
Emma    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    6    1885    -    Chester, Cheshire, England
Edward    Lawley    Son    -    Male    4    1887    -    Chester, Cheshire, England
Harry    Lawley    Son    Single    Male    2    1889    -    Chester, Cheshire, England
Agnes    Lawley    Daughter    Single    Female    0    1891    -    Chester, Cheshire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Heath Lane, Great Boughton, Chester, Cheshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
William    Lawley    Head    Married    Male    50    1851    Railway Pointsman    Bushbury, Shropshire, England
Mary A    Lawley    Wife    Married    Female    40    1861    -    Lancashire, England
Edward    Lawley    Son    Single    Male    14    1887    Errand Boy Printers    -
Henry    Lawley    Son    -    Male    12    1889    -    -
Agnes    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    10    1891    -    -
James    Lawley    Son    -    Male    9    1892    -    -
Ellen    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    8    1893    -    -
Alice    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    6    1895    -    -
Alfred    Lawley    Son    -    Male    4    1897    -    -
Fanny    Lawley    Daughter    -    Female    3    1898    -    -

1911 Census For England & Wales
Heath Great Boughton Chester, Great Boughton, Cheshire, England

First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
William    Lawley    Head    Married    Male    60    1851    Railway Lavatory Attendant    Rushbury Shropshire  Married 31 Yrs, 13 Children, all living
Mary    Lawley    Wife    Married    Female    50    1861    -    Manchester Lancashire
Edward    Lawley    Son    Single    Male    24    1887    Stoker    Great Boughton
Henry    Lawley    Son    Single    Male    22    1889    Railway Porter    Great Boughton
James    Lawley    Son    Single    Male    19    1892    Railway Engine Cleaner    Great Boughton
Alice    Lawley    Daughter    Single    Female    16    1895    Domestic Servant    Great Boughton
Fanny    Lawley    Daughter    Single    Female    13    1898    School    Great Boughton
Arthur    Lawley    Son    -    Male    7    1904    School    Great Boughton

Death:
First name(s)    William
Last name    Lawley
Gender    Male
Birth day    -
Birth month    -
Birth year    1851
Age    71
Death quarter    4
Death year    1922
District    Chester
County    Cheshire
Volume    8A
Page    419
Country    England
Record set    England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Mary A Lawley's life in 1939
57 Heath Lane, Chester, Chester R.D., Cheshire, England

First name(s)    Last name(s)    DOB    Sex    Occupation    Marital status    
Mary A    Lawley    06 Aug 1860    Female    Unpaid Domestic Duties    Widow    

Death:
First name(s)    Mary A
Last name    Lawley
Gender    Female
Birth day    -
Birth month    -
Birth year    1861
Age    89
Death quarter    1
Death year    1950
District    West Cheshire
County    Cheshire
Volume    10A
Page    769
Country    England
Record set    England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

WILL:
First name(s)    Mary Ann
Last name    Lawley
Death year    1950
Death date    27 Jan 1950
Probate year    1950
Probate date    21 Feb 1950
Residence town    Boughton
Registry    Chester
County    Cheshire
Linked persons (Her Daughter)   Emma Clubbe  Widow
Country    England
Record set    England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Effects £224. 0s 4d

 

 

peggy
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Thank you so much, lots of info!

Peggy