Help please... GRIFFITHS, Ellerdine, Shropshire

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garystead
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Hello all, I am new to this site and hoping someone can help give me some pointers. I am researching my maternal line and have come up against something of a brick wall.

My Grandmother was the illegitimate child of an unmarried woman working in the Ellerdine, Shropshire area in 1919. I have my Grandmothers birth certificate which names her birth mother but does not give the mothers age, her place of birth or any other details other than her full name and where she gave birth. The birth was registered 2 months after birth by the mother herself and no father is listed.

My question relates to where I can find further information about the birth mother who is listed as Elsie Mary (Or May) GRIFFITHS. She was a house keeper working in Long Lane, Sleapford. My Grandmother was adopted out at a young age and I am at a loss as to what records may exist relating to her birth mother and how to trace her family line . A lady at Shropshire Archives kindly informed me it was common place for adoptions to be published weekly in the local newspaper around the time. I am heading to Telford on Saturday to have a look at their microfilms.

Has anyone else come across adoption procedures in these little Shropshire villages around this time and can anyone give me any advice? I no longer live in the area so have no local knowledge. Perhaps The Lodge was a home for unmarried mothers?

The details are:

Evelyn Maud Griffiths born 13th April 1919 born at The Lodge, Ellerdine to Elsie Mary (Or May) Griffiths,  at 8 Sleapford, Long Lane. Registered 9th June by Elsie Griffiths.

Many Thanks all, Jeff

angela35
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Hi Jeff,well here for a start is Elsie Griffiths' birth reference;

 


Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
Griffiths Elsie May   Wellington, Sh. 6a 728

 

Here she is in 1911 with looks like, Mother married again;

 

Name Relation

Condition/
Yrs married
Sex Age Birth
Year
Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

 
BROWN, Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Roller Iron Shropshire Kelby

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BROWN, Lucy Wife Married
12 years
F 42 1869   Warwickshire Birmingham

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GRIFFITHS, Elsie Daughter Singel F 15 1896 School Shropshire Hadley

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BROWN, Fredrick Son   M 11 1900 School Shropshire Hadley

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BROWN, William Son   M 9 1902 School Shropshire Hadley

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BROWN, Sidmey Son   M 7 1904 School Shropshire Hadley

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BROWN, Charles Son   M 3 1908   Shropshire Hadley

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RG number:
RG14
Piece:
16302
Reference:
RG14PN16302 RG78PN1009 RD355 SD2 ED14 SN52
   
Registration District:
Wellington
Sub District:
Wellington
Enumeration District:
14
Parish:
Hadley Eyton upon the Weald Moors
   
Address:
7 Hadley Park Road Wellington Shropshire
County:
Shropshire

 

Lucy Griffiths married Thomas Brown in 1899 in Wellington, Salop but check that out by ordering that marriage cert. It will  give you her maiden name hopefully. REF; MARCH QTR 1899 WELLINGTON, SALOP 6a 1074

Good luck with your search.

Angela

 

 

angela35
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Here she is in 1901 SPELT INCORRECTLY;

 

Name Relation

Condition Sex Age Birth
Year
Occupation
Disability
Where Born Original
census
image

 
BROWN, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Iron Worker (Puddler) Ketley
Shropshire

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BROWN, Lucy A Wife Married F 32 1869   Birmingham

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GRIFFITHS, Maude Step Daughter   F 6 1895   Leegomery
Shropshire

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GRIFFITHS, Elcie Step Daughter   F 4 1897   Leegomery
Shropshire

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BROWN, Thomas F Son   M 1 1900   Leegomery
Shropshire

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RG number:
RG13
Piece:
2563
Folio:
164
Page:
15
   
Registration District:
Wellington
Sub District:
Wellington
Enumeration District:
13
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Hadley Holy Trinity
   
Civil Parish:
Hadley
Municipal Borough: Address:
Malt Shovel Yard, Leegomery Road, Hadley, Leegomery
County:
Shropshire

 

Notice she has a sister called Maude Griffiths [I can't find her birth though !] 

 

angela35
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Hi I have found parents for Elsie Griffiths on ancestry, they are WILLIAM GRIFFITHS abt 1870-1897 Shropshire and LUCY ANN BROWN [although I don't believe that is her correct name as she married THOMAS BROWN ]  b. 1869-1955 AND THAT SISTER MAUDE L GRIFFITHS b. 1895-1942.  I could let them know you are an interested party if required.

 

Here is WILLIAM GRIFFITHS in 1891; with parents;  Needs checking out though.

 

Name Relation

Condition Sex Age Birth
Year
Occupation
Disability
Where Born Original
census
image

 
GRIFFITHS, John Head Married M 60 1831 Farm Labourer Preston
Shropshire

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GRIFFITHS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 62 1829   Lilleshall
Shropshire

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GRIFFITHS, Mary Daughter Single F 32 1859 Domestic Servant Leegomery
Shropshire

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GRIFFITHS, Thomas Son Single M 24 1867 Farm Labourer Leegomery
Shropshire

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GRIFFITHS, William Son Single M 21 1870 Farm Labourer Leegomery
Shropshire

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RG number:
RG12
Piece:
2132
Folio:
78
Page:
12
   
Registration District:
Wellington
Sub District:
Wellington
Enumeration District:
14
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Hadley
   
Civil Parish:
Wellington
Municipal Borough: Address:
28, Leegomery Road, Wellington, Hadley
County:
Shropshire

 Hope that has helpedHope

Hope that has helped.

Angela

 

garystead
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My goodness Angela - a huge thankyou! I am somewhat overwhelmed at what you have found. Will have a look in more detail when I get home on Sunday. You mention being an interested party and letting someone know... who are you referring to?

Thanks again - Jeff! :)

 

angela35
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Someone that's on ancestry is researching same family, although they have some wrong info on tree. Would you like me to contact them for you?

angela35
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I have emailed the people who are also researching this family to let them know of you. I have given them the site so that they can see for themselves the messages on this site.

If I can help any further, please just ask, there are a good many people on here that will also help.

At least something for you to chew on !!

Angela

angela35
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That's why I couldn't find Maude's birth, it is actually LUCY MAUDE GRIFFITHS ! Born end 1894 WELLINGTON, SALOP.

 

Lucy Maud Griffiths
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1894
Registration district: Wellington Sal
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 699

 

Her death 1942 SHREWSBURY, never married according to that person researching same tree.

angela35
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Me again Jeff, I have had an answer to that person on ancestry and she wants your email address. Please leave it on here for me and I'll pass it on. Her name is Denise from Birmingham.

Regards,

Angela

garystead
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Hi Angela

 

It is ceff@live.co.uk

Ironically i am in Birmingham too!!

 

Thanks again Angela. I will let you know how I get on.

 

garyfurber73
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Hi, I had relations near Wellington (Hortonwood area) by the surname of GRIFFITHS. A lady by the name of Jane Griffiths was my Great Great Grandmother. If you did have any relations of this name in this area please let me know.

garyfurber73
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Hi, just noticed, you have a John GRIFFITHS (b 1831) on your 1891 census. I am pretty sure he is my G  G Grandmothers brother. Should have parents of Richard and Emma Griffiths. I have been trying to find a Griffiths connection for years. Please hope you can help.Gary.