Hi everyone I'm looking to go further back on my tree as after many years have finally established my 3x gt. Grandparents. Thomas & Elizabeth Cooper both born Wellington Salop or as stated/transcriber Dennngton on 1 census but think this must be Donnington. Below information I have on family.
Married Thomas Cooper Elizabeth Aglington Parifh of Wellington both of Parifh. 19th June 1821. By (John Bartlett my translation). Witnesses John Raden & Thos Rowleys ( my translation).
Children's baptism Wellington parents Thomas & Elizabeth Cooper, father miner, abode, not easy to read looks like Raf field but from census records for Edward think Rackfield/ Rackfield Row.
Ruth Cooper 25th Feb 1824. George Cooper but transcribed as Cowper 29th April 1827. By my best gues something Birds. Edward Cooper 26th June 1833 by looks like John Parkin. Thos Cooper 29th Nov 1835 by my best guess E Owen. Younger children all born Bilston Wolverhampton Staffordshire.with mother's maiden name Haglington.
Have Thomas & Elizabeth on 1841, 1851 &1861 census all in Bilston, can't find the on 1871 so assume died, but can't find an exact date of death. Have looked on Wolverhampton council that has all record burials form that time & no matches. Wondering if they may have been buried back in Shropshire. Any help with births or burials for Thomas & Elizabeth I would be really grateful or it just might take me many more years to get further back lol. Sorry forgot to say from uk North West Wigan area Sorry again I did want to ask is there 2 Donnington's as in Donington as well & what area should I be searching in for this area as doesn't Seem to come up. Also not to sure about Ruth & Thos as not on any census just assumed May be children as same abode. Thanks
Wow Wow Wow thank you so much! I had just found Benji & Catherine but wasn't sure. I also found a Joseph Haglington mother Elizabeth Haglington born just before they were married, on image fathers name crossed out but looks like Thomas oh dear lol. You even have my Gt. Grandfather John Cooper born bilston his son Isaac was my grandfather. Can't say how amazing this is after so many years looking for them. Think Elizabeth died first & Thomas went living with his son Edward as have Edward living Oatmeal sq Bilston on 1861 census & the Thomas age 66 1864 died Oatmeal sq & as Elizabeth always states that she is older on census think Elizabeth 1861 age 67 may be the one but that's just conjecture. Oh & by the way just realised put 3 x instead of 2 x gt grandparent lol
Hi J.P.J
Looks like your favorite for Thomas is correct. Found a Samuel Cooper 1797 living rag field row 1841.
Samuel also living in Bilston 1851.
Found his sister Mary Beddow (Cooper) who has Samuel's daughter Harriiet age 15 living with her 1851.
Found Mary Cooper birth 19th April 1795 Wombridge parents Thomas & Ann Cooper.
Can't find Samuel's birth but couldn't find Thomas birth either guessing not on Family Search & not coming up on my heritage Site. Can I ask where you found Thomas do I need to buy some records or something to carry on Thank you
Hi Valetta.
Could you confirm if your Thomas & Ann married about 1791, and was Ann,s maiden name Southall.
And do you have any silblings for Thomas, (If I am correct he was born 1768 Wrockwardine and was twin brother to a John)
We may be distantly related, because if the above details fit with your tree. Thomas,s twin brother, John married a Sibbella Adderley. John would of been my GGGGrandad.
It would be great if we are from the same line of Cooper.s
Regards
DaveC, Aylesbury Bucks
, William & Elizabeth.Hi Dave haven't got that far yet lol but when I search on family search site yes it does keep coming up with Ann Southall as a match on other trees but I like to do my own research but this is great news. Apart from family I know never met anyone doing My family Coopers. I think Samuel Cooper 1797 is an ideal candidate for brother Thomas circa 1799 but having trouble finding a birth for him. Have his marriage to Mary Heford/Heaford 14 Feb 1820 Wellington same place as Thomas 1799. On the image also a Sarah Cooper marriage to Samuel Bates same day but haven't got round to her yet.
I'm just trying to find out at the moment which site has the records for the area or if I need to buy some.
My Coopers ended up in Lancashire area Ashton-in-Makerfield.
Just had a reply on roots chat looks like records on find my past. They gave me all the other children born to Thomas & Ann.
Catherine, James , William & Elizabeth. Also possible marriage to Ann Southall :) On marriage witness Joseph Severns? Which I assume is hard to read. My Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington her mother was Catherine on her marriage Stephenton but other records Steventon. Wondering if this was Joseph's last name, one to watch out for in research.
Hi Valetta.
In my tree I have.
Thomas Cooper b 1768 married Ann Southall 1791(Twin brother to John Cooper, my cooper family line)
Thomas & Ann children.
Catherine b 1793
Mary b 1795
Samuel b 1798 married Mary Heaford 1820
Thomas b 1800
James b1807
William b 1809
Elizabeth b 1811
Sorry do not have a Sarah.
It seems that we may be on a similar family line. If you find from your research we are, let me know if I can help.
I use FMP most, but I also use all the free sites I can, Melocki is a good site for all the Shropshire villages.
Will be very interested to know if we are on the same lines, Incidently, My Cooper line hails from Bilston also, I am the last male Cooper on my parental line. although I now live in Bucks, where I settled have leaving the military.
Regards
DaveC Bucks
Hi Dave Think I can safely say we are from the same line. Unfortunately my father Vincent Cooper 1911 Lancashire was the last Cooper my family but he did have lots of brothers. His father was Isaac Cooper 1870 born Cannock Staffordshire. His father was John Cooper 1838 Bilston. His father is the Thomas Cooper born 1799. Shropshire. Talk abt itchy feet they did like to move around, don't make it easy to research lol Oh like the Melocki looks like that could be useful thanks
Hi Valetta.
If you look at the registers on Melocki for Wrockwardine/Wombridge you will find Thomas Cooper and John Cooper twin sons born 1768 to Thomas and Elizabeth. (I think Elizabeth maiden name was Ball)
I followed the last information you gave me on your tree and I can trace it all on the census returns right back back to 1841.
We need to prove that the Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington is the same twin brother, what puts a bit of a spanner in the works, is that there is a marriage for a Thomas at Wombridge to an Elizabeth Sutton in 1822. and a marriage at Wrockwardine to Mary Dorricott 1819.
I will do some more digging and let you know how I get on, if you find anything else please let me know. I am not sure if I am allowed to give you my e-mail address on here, which would be much better for communication, save keep blocking up this site with our messages. (maybe someone will let me know)
Keep looking and I will be in contact.
Dave C Bucks
Hi Dave Thomas who married Elizabeth Aglington not twin think he's Samuel's brother their dad Thomas Twin.
I'm just in the middle of doing this but Samuel Cooper 1841 census living Rag field Shropshire. On same page Rag field! Elizabeth Aglington's parents Benjamin & Catherine Aglington (maiden name Stephenton/Steventon) her brothers Richard & Thomas Aglington with their family's. Also next door to Samuel a John Stevington, other side Joseph Bedow. There is also a James & Sarah Ball family transcribed (Sarih) My head is spinning & that's just from the one page, going through all the pages for Rag field & more Coopers turning up hoping to find a connection.
IAs for email address don't think admin would like us to make public because it is connected to you sign in. However if admin read this I don't mind you sending Dave my email.
Email addresses exchanged as requested.
Mike (Admin)
Hi Valetta, The info for that Thos cooper B. in 1800 Wombridge is on Find My Past.
If you would like the image of his Baptism then kindly ask the moderator to supply me with your email address.
Then I could email it to you.
Best Regards
J.P.J
Thank you
Sorry Mike can you send my email to J.P.J as well thank you
Thanks John
Dave C
Valetta's email has been sent to J.P.J.
Mike (Admin)
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Hi Veletta, See below & the link will tell you more about Ragfield Row & the local area etc:
Best Regards
J.P.J
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/salop/vol11/pp252-256
Possible Baptisms for Thomas:
First name(s) Thomas Abode:Fedinr? Lane
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1796
Baptism date 16 Jul 1796
Denomination Anglican
Place Wombridge
Father's first name(s) Wilm
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism & Burial
Register date range 1779-1812
Archive reference P310/A/1/3
Page 43
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) Thos
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1797
Baptism date 02 Apr 1797
Denomination Anglican
Place Wombridge
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism & Burial
Register date range 1779-1812
Archive reference P310/A/1/3
Page 45
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1799
Baptism date 10 Nov 1799
Denomination Anglican
Place Dawley Magna
Father's first name(s) Isaac
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism & Burial
Register date range 1794-1812
Archive reference P89/A/1/3
Page 17
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
My Favourite out of the four:
First name(s) Thos
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 08 Jun 1800
Denomination Anglican
Place Wombridge
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism & Burial
Register date range 1779-1812
Archive reference P310/A/1/3
Page 60
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
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Only Baptism I could find for Elizabeth:
Possible:
Baptism:
First name(s) Elizth
Last name Aglington
Birth year -
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 29 Jul 1804
Denomination Anglican
Place Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s) Benjn
Mother's first name(s) Catharine
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Composite
Register date range 1799-1806
Archive reference P291/A/1/5
Page 77
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
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Marriage:
First name(s) Thomas X
Last name Cooper
Marriage year 1821
Marriage date 19 Jun 1821
Marriage place Wellington, All Saints
Denomination Anglican
Residence Wellington, All Saints
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth X
Spouse's last name Aglington
Spouse's residence Wellington, All Saints
County Shropshire
Register date range 1813-1827
Archive reference P291/A/3/5
Page 131
Register type Marriage
Record set Shropshire Marriages
Wit: John Roden, Thos Rowleys X
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Baptisms:
First name(s) Ruth Abode:Ragfields
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 25 Feb 1824
Denomination Anglican
Place Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1813-1825
Archive reference P291/A/2/1
Page 277
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) George Abode:Ragfields
Last name Cowper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 29 Apr 1827
Denomination Anglican
Place Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1825-1833
Archive reference P291/A/2/2
Page 86
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) Edward Abode:Ragfield
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1833
Baptism date 26 Jun 1833
Denomination Anglican
Place Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1833-1840
Archive reference P291/A/2/3
Page 2
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) Thos Abode:Ragfields
Last name Cooper
Birth year -
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 29 Nov 1835
Denomination Anglican
Place Wellington, All Saints
Father's first name(s) Thos Occ:Collier
Mother's first name(s) Elizth
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1833-1840
Archive reference P291/A/2/3
Page 98
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
First name(s) John Abode:Lester Street
Last name Cooper
Baptism year 1838
Baptism date 14 Jan 1838
Baptism place Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3338/1/1
Page 194
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
First name(s) Henry Abode:Lichfield Street
Last name Cooper
Baptism year 1840
Baptism date 02 Feb 1840
Baptism place Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3338/1/1
Page 384
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
First name(s) Louisa Abode:Bilston
Last name Cooper
Baptism year 1843
Baptism date 12 Feb 1843
Baptism place Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3338/1/2
Page 162
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
First name(s) Thomas Abode:Bilston
Last name Cooper
Baptism year 1846
Baptism date 04 Jan 1846
Baptism place Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3338/1/2
Page 364
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
First name(s) Mary Ann Abode:Bilston
Last name Cooper
Baptism year 1848
Baptism date 30 Mar 1848
Baptism place Bilston, St Leonard
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas Occ:Miner
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3338/1/3
Page 45
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Death:
COOPER, MARY ANN 2
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 235
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hall Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Cooper Male 40 1801 - Miner
Elizabeth Cooper Female 40 1801 -
George Cooper Male 15 1826 - Miner
Edward Cooper Male 8 1833 -
John Cooper Male 3 1838 Staffordshire, England
Henry Cooper Male 1 1840 Staffordshire, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hare Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Cooper Head Married Male 50 1801 Iron Miner Donington, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Cooper Wife Married Female 48 1803 - Donington, Shropshire, England
Edward Cooper Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Iron Miner Oakengates, Shropshire, England
John Cooper Son - Male 13 1838 Iron Miner Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Henry Cooper Son - Male 12 1839 Iron Miner Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Cooper Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Cooper Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
2, Church Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Cooper Head Married Male 65 1796 Coal Miner Wellington, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Cooper Wife Married Female 68 1793 Coal Miners Wife Wellington, Shropshire, England
Thomas Cooper Son - Male 15 1846 Coal Miner Bilston, Staffordshire, England
John Cooper Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Coal Miner Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Cooper Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Coal Brawer On...Bank Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Possible Deaths if they both died before the 1871 Cens:
COOPER, THOMAS 66
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 328
COOPER, THOMAS 74
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 363
COOPER, THOMAS 76
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 334
COOPER, THOMAS 68
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 310
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COOPER, ELIZABETH 67
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 266
COOPER, ELIZABETH 65
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 319
COOPER, ELIZABETH 69
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 479