Surname PAGE

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Caiwyn
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I am looking for family connections to a Sgt James Page from the Lee Brockhurst area. His father's name was also James Page and mother's name Eleanor ?
I would be very interested if there are any PAGES related and still living in the area.
Thank you,
Kevin

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Hi Kevin, It would help if you could give more info, like the D.O.B of the James Page (etc) you are looking for .

Best Regards

J.P

Caiwyn
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I am not sure to be honest (long story) according to burial record he was 84 years old when he died so that would make his year of birth 1747. He had a brother who died 1745 at the age of 1 so I guess he was named after him. His father's name was James as well and I think he was born in Shropshire around 1706.
Thank you for your help.

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Hi Kevin, It would also help if you could let me know when & where this James Page's burial took place.

Best Regards

J.P

Caiwyn
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I have seen the burial record and he died in Abererch, Pwllheli, North Wales, at the age of 84 in 1831 giving us a birth year of 1747ish. There is a record in Shropshire for a James Page (1744-1745) and I am thinking he might have been named after the death of his brother? He served in the Caernarvonshire Militia and I have seen his discharge papers but according to that he was 61 years old in 1799 which would make him 93 years old in 1831, confusing? His father's name was James also and I have seen a couple of James Pages born in Shropshire in 1706 and 1711 but can't make any connection between them.
Thank you for your help
Kevkn

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Hi Kevin, I've tried to find some evidence of the James Page you say you are looking for. Like you I could only find a birth & a death for the same James Page that you had found.

However I've found a possible marriage for his parents but the first name of the groom is missing!
But I did find possible birth's for an Eleanor.

I've also seen the military record for the James Page who you think is yours from 1799 where it states place of birth Shrewsbury or near to. But it states his birth Parish was St, Gillian's and I think that should read St.Julians which is a parish in Shrewsbury & not Lee Brockhurst.

So I would like to know why you think this particuler James Page is the one you've been looking for?

Best Regards

J.P

 

Possible:
Marriage:
First name(s)     -
Last name     Page
Marriage date     16 Jun 1742 to 1746
Marriage place     Lee Brockhurst
Spouse's first name(s)     Elianor
Spouse's last name     Farde
Register date range     1715-1812
Archive reference     P158/A/1/2
Marriage year     1742? 1746?
Page     15
Register type     Composite
Record set     Shropshire Marriages
Denomination     Anglican
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     Great Britain, England
County     Shropshire

Possible Baptism's of the bride:
Baptism:
First name(s)     Elnor
Residence     -
Last name     Fardoe
County     Shropshire
Birth year     -
Register type     Composite
Baptism year     1715
Register date range     1695-1727
Baptism date     29 Dec 1715
Archive reference     P295/A/1/4
Denomination     Anglican
Page     70
Place     Wem
Record set     Shropshire Baptisms
Father's first name(s)     John
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Mother's first name(s)     Margerett
Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
Mother's last name     -
Collections from     Great Britain, England

Baptism:
First name(s)     Ellinnor
Last name     Fardoe
Father's first name(s)     Joseph
Father's last name     Fardoe
Sex     Female
Mother's first name(s)     Elizabeth
Baptism year     1722
Record set     England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date     12 Jan 1722
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place     Wem
Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
County     Shropshire
Collections from     England, Great Britain
Country     England

Series     Wo 121 - Chelsea: Pensioners' Discharge Documents 1760-1887
First name(s)     James  Occ:Shoemaker
Last name     Page
Birth year     1738
Birth town     Shrewsbury
Parish St. Gillians (perhaps St. Julians?)
Carnarvon Militia
Discharge corps Militia
Discharge date     01 Aug 1799
Document type     Discharge
Archive     The National Archives
Birth county     Shropshire
Reference     WO 121
Birth country     England
Box     0035
Service number     -
Record set     British Army Service Records
Regiment     Militia
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation year     1799
Subcategory     Regimental & Service Records
Attestation date     ? ? 1799
Collections from     Great Britain, England
     
The burial you've found:
Burial:
First name(s)     James  Abode:Carvug y gart?
Last name     Page
Burial date     28 Mar 1831
Place     Abererch
Country     Wales
Archive type     Burials
Age     84
Archive year range     1813-1868
Birth year     1747
Page     53
Burial year     1831
Record set     Caernarvonshire Burials
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Burials
Parish     Abererch
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain
County     Caernarvonshire

Caiwyn
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First of all thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate your time, the main reason I think it is the James Page we are looking for is we knew he was a sergeant in the army, we knew he was a shoemaker like his father and son and we knew he was from the Shropshire area. Of course we are not 100% but I am a good 90% I would say. My next task is to try and find if he had any brothers and sisters I am sure he had. Any more advice from you would be very welcomed.
I have checked the baptism of Elinor Fardoe, sadly she died at the age of 1.
Thanks
Kevin

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Hi Kevin, There is not much info online for many James Page's found in Shropshire in the 1700's. I have found a possible marriage for a James Page.
But I think it was too early to be the lineage you are looking for. But better news is that James jnr Page perhaps married again in Abererch, Caernarvonshire.
There is evidence that he may have had two son's John Page Baptised in 1800. And Evan Page buried in 1830 Both of these events have the same abode has the James page who you claim is yours. So looking more closley at the abode of the death of James in 1831 it does look like Carreg Y Gart(h).

See below

Best regards
J.P

England Marriages 1538-1973
Ludford, Shropshire, England
First name(s)     James
Last name     Page
Residence     Ludford, Shropshire, England
Marriage date     18 May 1714
Marriage place     Ludford   (Nr Ludlow)
Spouse's first name(s)     Elinor
Spouse's last name     Woodruff (or Woodrust)
Marriage year     1714
Spouse's age     -
Name note -
Record set     England Marriages 1538-1973
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
County     Shropshire
Country     England
Collections from     England, Great Britain

Another version of the above marriage:
First name(s)     James
Last name     Page
Marriage date     18 May 1714
Place     Ludford, St Giles
Spouse's first name(s)     Elinor
Spouse's last name     Woodrust
Year     1714
Record set     Herefordshire Marriages
Description     St Giles
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
County     Shropshire
Country     England
Collections from     England, Great Britain
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Marriage:
First name(s)     James  Widower
Last name     Page   Signed X
Residence     Llangybi
Marriage date     13 Aug 1791
Marriage place     Abererch
Spouse's first name(s)     Elizabeth Signed X
Spouse's last name     Jones  Widow
Spouse's residence     Abererch
Wit:Robert Williams, Hugh Humphrey
County     Caernarvonshire
Country     Wales
Marriage year     1791
Event     Marriage
Event type     Baptisms, marriages & burials
Event year range     1753-1812
Record set     Caernarvonshire Marriages And Banns
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain

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Baptism:
First name(s)     John   Abode:Careg Y Garth
Last name     Page
Baptism date     25 Jun 1800
Place     Abererch
Father's first name(s)     James
Mother's first name(s)     Elizabeth
County     Caernarvonshire
Country     Wales
Birth year     1800
Archive type     Baptisms, marriages & burials
Birth date     ? ? 1800
Archive year range     1753-1812
Baptism year     1800
Record set     Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain

Burial:
First name(s)     Evan  Abode:Carreg Y Garth
Last name     Page
Age     36
Burial date     27 Nov 1830
Place     Abererch
Country     Wales
Archive type     Burials
Archive year range     1813-1868
Birth year     1794
Page     52
Burial year     1830
Record set     Caernarvonshire Burials
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Burials
Parish     Abererch
County     Caernarvonshire
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain

Caiwyn
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Thank you again for your hard work, I have seen the marriage to Elizabeth Jones, I think his first marriage was to Mary ?, I am not sure if it was in Shropshire or it could have been somewhere else. It is a very frustrating time as I think I am not far from getting the final pieces in the jigsaw.
Thank you
Kevin