Hi, I'm trying to trace any living relatives of 3 local soldiers who died late October/November 1918. On the 11th November 2022 there will be a ceremony in their honour at Lamain communal cemetery in Belguim where they lay alongside 4 other soldiers who died at the same time. One of these soldiers is my great uncle Richard John Thomas of the Royal Welch Fusiliers. The soldiers are Private Gomer Southerton born 1895 died 5/11/1918 Towers Cottages Llandrinio Llanymynech. KSLI. Private C.J.Summers died 4/11/1918 Alderney Edge KSLI ex Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry. Company Quarter Master Sergent William John Parry born 1891 died 20/10/1918 Criggion Alderbury Shropshire. Royal Welch Fusiliers. If I can find any relatives I would like to invite them to the ceremony in Lamain.
Hello
The helpful reply above includes a link to an image of this man's Medal Index Card on the National Archives web site. Whilst the image can be downloaded free at present it should be noted that it is only in black and white and only shows the front of the card regardless of whether anything is written on the rear.
For those with access to Ancestry UK a much better option is to search for the Medal Index Card on that site where the image will be in colour and show both the front and the back.
Mike
Hi, I've taken the easy route,Gomer's brother Maldwyn V Southerton, I do have descendants for you but their last known address is for 2002.
Please ask the moderator to send me your email address, then I can give you the up to date info.
Best Regards
J.P
See below
Montgomeryshire Baptisms
First name(s) Maldwyn Vaughan Abode:Rhos Common
Last name Southerton
Baptism date 29 Jan 1893
Place Llandrinio
Father's first name(s) Samuel Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Page 91
Baptism year 1893
Record set Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Baptism date 29 Jan 1893
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
County Montgomeryshire
Country Wales
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
SOUTHERTON, MALDWYN VAUGHAN EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in LLANFYLLIN Volume 11B Page 181
Banns:
First name(s) Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name Southerton
Marital status Bachelor
Residence St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
Marital status Bachelor
Place Anfield, St Simon and St Jude
Banns date 03 Sep 1916
Spouse's first name(s) Eva
Spouse's last name Jones
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference 283-ANF-5-1
Register type Banns
Denomination Church Of England
Register year range 1896-1919
Diocese Liverpool
Record set Lancashire Banns & Marriages
Residence St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
Marriage:
First name(s) Maldwyn V
Last name Southerton
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1916
District West Derby
Maldwyn V Southerton married
Eva Jones
Spouse's last name Jones
Volume 8B
Volume as transcribed 8B
Page number 384
Maldwyn V Southerton married one of these people
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
County Lancashire
Country England
Collections from Great Britain, England
1939 Register
Strand House, Starcross, St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status
Maldwyn V Southerton 04 Nov 1892 Male GWR Station Master Married
Eva Southerton 22 Jun 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Irene Southerton 04 Dec 1918 Female Shorthand Typist Single
Clifford Southerton 08 Jun 1925 Male At School Single
Death:
First name(s) Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name Southerton
Death quarter 1
Death year 1972
Birth day 4
Birth month 11
Birth year 1892
District Torbay
County Devon
Volume 7A
Page 2783
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
Will/Probate:
First name(s) Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name Southerton
Death year 1972
Death date 21 Mar 1972
Probate year 1972
Probate date 26 Jun 1972
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence town Starcross
Registry Bristol
County Devon
Country England
Collections from Great Britain, England
Effects:£944
Hi Mike
thanks very much for the info, regards Bryan
Hi John
thanks very much for the info it's great to think I may be able to meet some of Gomer's relatives.
I will willingly pass on my email address, talk soon Bryan
I have sent the email address for Historylives to Johnp3
Mike (Admin)
Thank you Mike
Hi Bryan, More info for you this time on C J Summers. I've yet to trace his relations forward in time.
Best regards
J.P
KSLI. Private C.J.Summers died 4/11/1918 Alderney Edge KSLI ex Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry.
First name(s) Charles John
Last name Summers
Rank Private
Death day 4
Death month 11
Death year 1918
Cause of death Killed in action
Birth place Northrepps, Norfolk
Service number 24010
Regiment King's (Shropshire Light Infantry)
Death place France & Flanders
Battalion 10th Battalion.
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Battalion details -
Supplementary Notes -
Residence -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Enlistment place Whitchurch
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
First name(s) C J
Last name Summers
Birth year -
Rank Private
Death date 04 Nov 1918
Burial country Belgium
Regiment King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Grave reference Near the far end of the left part.
Cemetery or memorial Lamain Communal Cemetery
Death year 1918
Link https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
War First World War, 1914-1918
Number 24010
Record set Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit 10th (Shropshire And Cheshire Yeomanry) Bn.
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Baptism:
First name(s) Charles John
Last name Summers
Birth date 22 Nov 1884
Baptism date 11 Jan 1885
Parish Northrepps
Father's first name(s) John Henry
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 707/11
Archive year range 1852-1902
Page 69
Record set Norfolk Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Diocese Norwich
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Norfolk
Country England
Collections from England, Great Britain
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Frogs Hall, South Repps Road, Northrepps, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John H Summers Head Married Male 37 1854 Platelayer on railway Norfolk, England
Sarah Summers Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Norfolk, England
Walter H Summers Son - Male 13 1878 Scholar Norfolk, England
William Summers Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Norfolk, England
Agnes M Summers Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Norfolk, England
Cecil V Summers Son - Male 3 1888 Scholar Norfolk, England
Stephen Summers Brother Single Male 35 1856 Painter Norfolk, England
Charles J Summers Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Northrepps,Norfolk, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cliff Farm, Trimingham, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Summers Head Married Male 47 1854 Carter Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Sarah Summers Wife Married Female 42 1859 Carter Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Charles John Summers Son Single Male 16 1885 Teamster Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Cecil Victor Summers Son Single Male 13 1888 Teamster Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Caroline Theodora Summers Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Hi Bryan, More to follow to you, I have now found some of William John Parry's relations. I'm just trying to find them in the electoral rolls.
Best Regards
J.P
Company Quarter Master Sergent William John Parry born 1891 died 20/10/1918, Criggion Alderbury Shropshire.
First name(s) William John
Last name Parry
Rank Company Serjeant Major
Age 27
Birth year 1891
Death date 20 Oct 1918
Death year 1918
Burial country Belgium
Cemetery or memorial Lamain Communal Cemetery
Grave reference Near the far end of the left part.
Additional information Son of John and Mary A. Parry, of Lacon Villa, Criggion, Alberbery, Shrewsbury.
Link https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
War First World War, 1914-1918
Number 355190
Record set Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit 25th (Montgomeryshire And Welsh Horse Yeomanry) Bn.
Subcategory First World War
Regiment Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
First name(s) William John
Last name Parry
Birth year 1891
Age 23
Year 1914
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Service number 2254
Subcategory First World War
Regiment Montgomeryshire Yeomanry
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Marriage:
First name(s) John Bachelor Occ:Farmer
Last name Parry
Age 28
Birth year 1860
Residence Criggion
Father's first name(s) Richard Occ:Farmer
Father's last name Parry
Marriage date 11 Sep 1888
Marriage place Great Wollaston and Middletown
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spinster
Spouse's last name Hughes
Spouse's age 26
Spouse's residence Uppington in Great Wollaston
Spouse's father's first name(s) David Occ:Farmer
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Wit:George Morris, Alice Hughes
County Shropshire
Register date range 1864-1900
Archive reference P115/A/2/1
Denomination Anglican
Page 25
Marriage year 1888
Register type Marriage
Record set Shropshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Great Britain, England
Birth:
PARRY, MARY ELIZABETH HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in FORDEN Volume 11B Page 187
Birth:
PARRY, WILLIAM JOHN HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 576
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Malt House, Crew Green, Bauseley, Atcham, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Parry Head Married Male 31 1860 Farmer Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary A Parry Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Middleton, Montgomeryshire, Wales
William J Parry Son - Male 4mths 1891 - Bausley, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth:
PARRY, MARGARET JANE HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 589
Birth:
PARRY, SARAH ALICE HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 671
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hansley Hill, Bausley Hill, Bauseley (Montgomery), Atcham, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Parry Head Married Male 41 1860 General agricultural labourer Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary Parry Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Trewern, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Jane Parry Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Alberbury, Shropshire, England
Sarah Parry Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Alberbury, Shropshire, England
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William John Parry on this one & sister Mary
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Heldre Hall, Uppington, Forden, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Evan Hughes Head Single Male 31 1870 Farmer Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Joseph Hughes Brother Single Male 26 1875 Farmer's brother Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Alice Hughes Sister Single Female 33 1868 Housekeeper Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary Parry Niece Single Female 12 1889 - Montgomeryshire, Wales
William Parry Nephew Single Male 10 1891 - Alberbury, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Elsie Jones Servant Single Female 16 1885 General servant domestic Buttington, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Thomas Ellis Servant Single Male 64 1837 Cattleman on farm Alberbury, Montgomeryshire, Wales
His fathers death:
Death:
PARRY, JOHN 47
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 410
1911 Census For England & Wales
The Green Buttington Welshpool, Cletterwood, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Parry Head Widow Female 49 1862 Dressmaker Montg Trewen (4 children all still living)
Sarah Parry Daughter - Female 10 1901 School Salop Bausley
Some of William John Parry's siblings on this one
1911 Census For England & Wales
Heldre Uppington Welshpool, Uppington, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Hughes Head Single Male 36 1875 Farmer Mont Gt Wollaston
William Hughes Brother Single Male 31 1880 Farmers brother working on farm Mont Gt Wollaston
Alice Hughes Sister Single Female 42 1869 Housekeeper Mont Gt Wollaston
Mary Elizabeth Parry Niece Single Female 22 1889 General servant domestic Mont Gt Wollaston
Jane Davies Visitor Married Female 39 1872 - Mont Gt Wollaston
David Herbert Davies Visitor - Male 4 1907 - Mont Alberbury
Margaret Jane Parry Niece - Female 13 1898 School Mont Gt Wollaston
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Hi Historylives, I hope this helps. I will keep looking for the relatives of these soldiers.
Best Regards
J.P
Private Gomer Southerton born 1895 (1896) died 5/11/1918 Towers Cottages, Llandrinio, Llanymynech.
Birth:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SOUTHERTON, FREDERICK GOMER EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in LLANFYLLIN Volume 11B Page 186
Baptism:
First name(s) Frederick Gomer Abode:Sarn Wen
Last name Southerton
Baptism date 31 May 1896
lace Llandrinio
Father's first name(s) Samuel Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Page 96
Baptism year 1896
Record set Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
PSubcategory Parish Baptisms
County Montgomeryshire
Country Wales
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rhos Common, Llandrinio, Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Southerton Head Widow Female 48 1853 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Edward Southerton Son Single Male 22 1879 Barber Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Bessie Southerton Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Charlotte Southerton Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Maldwyn Southerton Son Single Male 8 1893 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Gomer Southerton Son Single Male 5 1896 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Dorothy Southerton Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
1911 Census For England & Wales
Towers Cottages Llandrinio, Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Southerton Head Widow Female 57 1854 Charwoman Llandrinio Montgomery
Edward Southerton Son Single Male 33 1878 - Llandrinio Montgomery
Maldwyn Southerton Son Single Male 18 1893 Railway clerk Llandrinio Montgomery
Gomer Southerton Son Single Male 15 1896 Domestic servant Llandrinio Montgomery
Dorothy Southerton Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Llandrinio Montgome
First name(s) Gomer
Last name Southerton
Links Gomer: Medal Index Card
Gomer: CWGC record
Birth year 1895
Source View the Source record
Birth date -
Copyright -
Service number 26711
User facts Place of Birth : United Kingdom Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire.
Nature of Death : Gomer,aged,23,is buried at Lamain Communal Cemetery,Hainaut,Belgium.
Grave reference Near the far end of the left part and remembered on the Llandrinio War Memorial.
Place of Death : Belgium Ypres
Rank Private
Country Great Britain
Year 1914-18
Record set Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918
Death year 1918
Death date 05 Nov 1918
Subcategory First World War
Corps King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Service British Army
Stories -
First name(s) Gomer
Last name Southerton
Second service record Soldier Number: 26711, Rank: Private, Corps: King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D6415878
Year 1914-20
Country Great Britain
Service number 3303, 26711
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Second service number 26711
Archive reference WO372/18
Rank Private,Private
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Second rank Private
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Regiment Montgomeryshire Yeomanry, King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Second corps King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Subcategory Medal Rolls and Honours
Service record Soldier Number: 3303, Rank: Private, Corps: Montgomeryshire Yeomanry
Collections from Great Britain, UK None