Finding WW1 soldiers relatives

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Hi, I'm trying to trace any living relatives of 3 local soldiers who died late October/November 1918. On the 11th November 2022 there will be a ceremony in their honour at Lamain communal cemetery in Belguim where they lay alongside 4 other soldiers who died at the same time. One of these soldiers is my great uncle Richard John Thomas of the Royal Welch Fusiliers. The soldiers are Private Gomer Southerton born 1895 died 5/11/1918 Towers Cottages Llandrinio Llanymynech. KSLI. Private C.J.Summers died 4/11/1918 Alderney Edge KSLI ex Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry. Company Quarter Master Sergent William John Parry born 1891 died 20/10/1918 Criggion Alderbury Shropshire. Royal Welch Fusiliers. If I can find any relatives I would like to invite them to the ceremony in Lamain.

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Hi Historylives, I hope this  helps. I will keep looking for the relatives of these soldiers.

Best Regards

J.P

Private Gomer Southerton born 1895 (1896) died 5/11/1918 Towers Cottages, Llandrinio, Llanymynech.

 

Birth:
Name:                                                 Mother's Maiden Surname:
SOUTHERTON, FREDERICK  GOMER            EDWARDS      
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in LLANFYLLIN  Volume 11B  Page 186

Baptism:
First name(s)     Frederick Gomer     Abode:Sarn Wen
Last name     Southerton
Baptism date     31 May 1896
lace     Llandrinio
Father's first name(s)     Samuel      Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s)     Margaret
Page     96
Baptism year     1896
Record set     Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
PSubcategory     Parish Baptisms
County     Montgomeryshire
Country     Wales
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rhos Common, Llandrinio, Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Margaret    Southerton    Head    Widow    Female    48    1853    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Edward    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    22    1879    Barber    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Bessie    Southerton    Daughter    Single    Female    13    1888    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Charlotte    Southerton    Daughter    Single    Female    10    1891    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Maldwyn    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    8    1893    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Gomer    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    5    1896    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Dorothy    Southerton    Daughter    Single    Female    3    1898    -    Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales

1911 Census For England & Wales
Towers Cottages Llandrinio, Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship to head    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Margaret    Southerton    Head    Widow    Female    57    1854    Charwoman    Llandrinio Montgomery
Edward    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    33    1878    -    Llandrinio Montgomery
Maldwyn    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    18    1893    Railway clerk    Llandrinio Montgomery
Gomer    Southerton    Son    Single    Male    15    1896    Domestic servant    Llandrinio Montgomery
Dorothy    Southerton    Daughter    -    Female    13    1898    School    Llandrinio Montgome

First name(s)     Gomer
Last name     Southerton
Links     Gomer: Medal Index Card
Gomer: CWGC record
Birth year     1895
Source     View the Source record
Birth date     -
Copyright     -
Service number     26711
User facts Place of Birth : United Kingdom Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire.
Nature of Death : Gomer,aged,23,is buried at Lamain Communal Cemetery,Hainaut,Belgium.
Grave reference Near the far end of the left part and remembered on the Llandrinio War Memorial.
Place of Death : Belgium Ypres
Rank     Private
Country Great Britain
Year     1914-18
Record set     Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918
Death year     1918
Death date     05 Nov 1918
Subcategory     First World War
Corps     King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Collections from     Great Britain, UK None
Service     British Army
Stories     -

First name(s)     Gomer
Last name     Southerton
Second service record     Soldier Number: 26711, Rank: Private, Corps: King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D6415878
Year     1914-20
Country     Great Britain
Service number     3303, 26711
Medal type     British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Second service number     26711
Archive reference     WO372/18
Rank     Private,Private
Archive reference description     Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Second rank     Private
Record set     Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Regiment     Montgomeryshire Yeomanry, King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Second corps     King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Subcategory     Medal Rolls and Honours
Service record     Soldier Number: 3303, Rank: Private, Corps: Montgomeryshire Yeomanry
Collections from     Great Britain, UK None
 

 

Michael J Hulme
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Hello

The helpful reply above includes a link to an image of this man's Medal Index Card on the National Archives web site.  Whilst the image can be downloaded free at present it should be noted that it is only in black and white and only shows the front of the card regardless of whether anything is written on the rear.

For those with access to Ancestry UK a much better option is to search for the Medal Index Card on that site where the image will be in colour and show both the front and the back.

Mike

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Hi, I've taken the easy route,Gomer's brother Maldwyn V Southerton, I do have descendants for you but their last known address is for 2002.

Please ask the moderator to send me your email address, then I can give you the up to date info.

Best Regards

J.P

See below

Montgomeryshire Baptisms

First name(s)     Maldwyn Vaughan  Abode:Rhos Common
Last name     Southerton
Baptism date     29 Jan 1893
Place     Llandrinio
Father's first name(s)     Samuel  Occ:Labourer
Mother's first name(s)     Margaret
Page     91
Baptism year     1893
Record set     Montgomeryshire Baptisms
Baptism date     29 Jan 1893
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire, Wales
County     Montgomeryshire
Country     Wales
Collections from     Wales, Great Britain

SOUTHERTON, MALDWYN  VAUGHAN         EDWARDS      
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in LLANFYLLIN  Volume 11B  Page 181

Banns:
First name(s)     Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name     Southerton
Marital status     Bachelor
Residence     St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
Marital status     Bachelor
Place     Anfield, St Simon and St Jude
Banns date     03 Sep 1916
Spouse's first name(s)     Eva
Spouse's last name     Jones
Spouse's marital status     Spinster
Spouse's residence     St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
County     Lancashire
Country     England
Archive     Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference     283-ANF-5-1
Register type     Banns
Denomination     Church Of England
Register year range     1896-1919
Diocese     Liverpool
Record set     Lancashire Banns & Marriages
Residence     St Simon & St Jude's Anfield
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     England, Great Britain

Marriage:
First name(s)     Maldwyn V
Last name     Southerton
Marriage quarter     3
Marriage year     1916
District     West Derby
Maldwyn V Southerton married
Eva Jones
Spouse's last name     Jones
Volume     8B
Volume as transcribed     8B
Page number     384
Maldwyn V Southerton married one of these people
Record set     England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Civil Marriage & Divorce
County     Lancashire
Country     England
Collections from     Great Britain, England

1939 Register
Strand House, Starcross, St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
First name(s)    Last name(s)    Birth date    Sex    Occupation    Marital status    
Maldwyn V    Southerton    04 Nov 1892    Male    GWR Station Master    Married    
Eva    Southerton    22 Jun 1894    Female    Unpaid Domestic Duties    Married    
Irene     Southerton    04 Dec 1918    Female    Shorthand Typist    Single    
Clifford Southerton    08 Jun 1925    Male    At School    Single    

Death:
First name(s)     Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name     Southerton
Death quarter     1
Death year     1972
Birth day     4
Birth month     11
Birth year     1892
District     Torbay
County     Devon
Volume     7A
Page     2783
Country     England
Record set     England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age     -
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from     Great Britain, England

Will/Probate:
First name(s)     Maldwyn Vaughan
Last name     Southerton
Death year     1972
Death date     21 Mar 1972
Probate year     1972
Probate date     26 Jun 1972
Record set     England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence town     Starcross
Registry     Bristol
County     Devon
Country     England
Collections from     Great Britain, England
Effects:£944

 

 

 

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    Hi Mike

    thanks very much for the info, regards Bryan

 

 

 

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Hi John                     
            thanks very much for the info it's great to think I may be able to meet some of Gomer's relatives.

 I will willingly pass on my email address, talk soon Bryan

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I have sent the email address for Historylives to Johnp3

Mike (Admin)

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Thank you Mike

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Hi Bryan, More info for you this time on C J Summers. I've yet to trace his relations forward in time.

Best regards

J.P

KSLI. Private C.J.Summers died 4/11/1918 Alderney Edge KSLI ex Shropshire and Cheshire Yeomanry.

First name(s)     Charles John
Last name     Summers
Rank     Private
Death day     4
Death month     11
Death year     1918
Cause of death     Killed in action
Birth place     Northrepps, Norfolk
Service number     24010
Regiment     King's (Shropshire Light Infantry)
Death place     France & Flanders
Battalion     10th Battalion.
Theatre of war     Western European Theatre
Battalion details     -
Supplementary Notes     -
Residence     -
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory     First World War
Enlistment place Whitchurch
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

First name(s)     C J
Last name     Summers
Birth year     -
Rank     Private
Death date     04 Nov 1918
Burial country     Belgium
Regiment     King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Grave reference Near the far end of the left part.
Cemetery or memorial     Lamain Communal Cemetery
Death year     1918
Link     https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
War     First World War, 1914-1918
Number     24010
Record set     Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit     10th (Shropshire And Cheshire Yeomanry) Bn.
Subcategory     First World War
Collections from     Great Britain, UK None

Baptism:
First name(s)     Charles John
Last name     Summers
Birth date     22 Nov 1884
Baptism date     11 Jan 1885
Parish     Northrepps
Father's first name(s)     John Henry
Mother's first name(s)     Sarah
Archive     Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference     PD 707/11
Archive year range     1852-1902
Page     69
Record set     Norfolk Baptisms
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Diocese     Norwich
Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
County     Norfolk
Country     England
Collections from     England, Great Britain

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Frogs Hall, South Repps Road, Northrepps, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John H    Summers    Head    Married    Male    37    1854    Platelayer on railway    Norfolk, England
Sarah    Summers    Wife    Married    Female    32    1859    -    Norfolk, England
Walter H    Summers    Son    -    Male    13    1878    Scholar    Norfolk, England
William    Summers    Son    -    Male    11    1880    Scholar    Norfolk, England
Agnes M    Summers    Daughter    -    Female    9    1882    Scholar    Norfolk, England
Cecil V    Summers    Son    -    Male    3    1888    Scholar    Norfolk, England
Stephen    Summers    Brother    Single    Male    35    1856    Painter    Norfolk, England
Charles J    Summers    Son    -    Male    6    1885    Scholar Northrepps,Norfolk, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cliff Farm, Trimingham, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John    Summers    Head    Married    Male    47    1854    Carter    Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Sarah    Summers    Wife    Married    Female    42    1859    Carter    Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Charles John    Summers    Son    Single    Male    16    1885    Teamster    Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Cecil Victor    Summers    Son    Single    Male    13    1888    Teamster    Northrepps, Norfolk, England
Caroline Theodora    Summers    Daughter    Single    Female    7    1894    -    Northrepps, Norfolk, England

 

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Hi Bryan, More to follow to you, I have now found some of William John Parry's relations. I'm just trying to find them in the electoral rolls.

Best Regards

J.P

Company Quarter Master Sergent William John Parry born 1891 died 20/10/1918, Criggion Alderbury Shropshire.

First name(s)     William John
Last name     Parry
Rank     Company Serjeant Major
Age     27
Birth year     1891
Death date     20 Oct 1918
Death year     1918
Burial country     Belgium
Cemetery or memorial Lamain Communal Cemetery
Grave reference  Near the far end of the left part.
Additional information     Son of John and Mary A. Parry, of Lacon Villa, Criggion, Alberbery, Shrewsbury.
Link     https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
War     First World War, 1914-1918
Number     355190
Record set     Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit     25th (Montgomeryshire And Welsh Horse Yeomanry) Bn.
Subcategory     First World War
Regiment     Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Collections from     Great Britain, UK None

First name(s)     William John
Last name     Parry
Birth year     1891
Age     23
Year     1914
Series     WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Archive     The National Archives
Record set     British Army Service Records
Category     Military, armed forces & conflict
Service number     2254
Subcategory     First World War
Regiment     Montgomeryshire Yeomanry
Collections from     Great Britain, UK None

Marriage:
First name(s)     John   Bachelor Occ:Farmer
Last name     Parry
Age     28
Birth year     1860
Residence     Criggion
Father's first name(s)     Richard Occ:Farmer
Father's last name     Parry
Marriage date     11 Sep 1888
Marriage place     Great Wollaston and Middletown
Spouse's first name(s)     Mary Ann   Spinster
Spouse's last name     Hughes
Spouse's age     26
Spouse's residence     Uppington in Great Wollaston
Spouse's father's first name(s) David   Occ:Farmer
Spouse's father's last name Hughes
Wit:George Morris, Alice Hughes
County     Shropshire
Register date range     1864-1900
Archive reference     P115/A/2/1
Denomination     Anglican
Page     25
Marriage year     1888
Register type     Marriage
Record set     Shropshire Marriages
Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory     Parish Marriages
Collections from     Great Britain, England

Birth:
PARRY, MARY  ELIZABETH       HUGHES      
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in FORDEN  Volume 11B  Page 187

Birth:
PARRY, WILLIAM  JOHN          HUGHES      
GRO Reference: 1890  D Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 576

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Malt House, Crew Green, Bauseley, Atcham, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John    Parry    Head    Married    Male    31    1860    Farmer    Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary A     Parry    Wife    Married    Female    29    1862    -    Middleton, Montgomeryshire, Wales
William J    Parry    Son    -    Male    4mths    1891    - Bausley, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Birth:
PARRY, MARGARET  JANE       HUGHES      
GRO Reference: 1897  D Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 589

Birth:
PARRY, SARAH  ALICE       HUGHES      
GRO Reference: 1901  J Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 671

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hansley Hill, Bausley Hill, Bauseley (Montgomery), Atcham, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
John    Parry    Head    Married    Male    41    1860    General agricultural labourer    Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary    Parry    Wife    Married    Female    39    1862    -    Trewern, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Jane    Parry    Daughter    -    Female    3    1898    -    Alberbury, Shropshire, England
Sarah    Parry    Daughter    -    Female    0    1901    -    Alberbury, Shropshire, England
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William John Parry on this one & sister Mary
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Heldre Hall, Uppington, Forden, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Evan    Hughes    Head    Single    Male    31    1870    Farmer    Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Joseph    Hughes    Brother    Single    Male    26    1875    Farmer's brother    Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Alice    Hughes    Sister    Single    Female    33    1868    Housekeeper    Middletown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary    Parry    Niece    Single    Female    12    1889    -    Montgomeryshire, Wales
William    Parry    Nephew    Single    Male    10    1891    -    Alberbury, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Elsie    Jones    Servant    Single    Female    16    1885    General servant domestic    Buttington, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Thomas    Ellis    Servant    Single    Male    64    1837    Cattleman on farm    Alberbury, Montgomeryshire, Wales

His fathers death:
Death:
PARRY, JOHN         47  
GRO Reference: 1907  J Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 410

1911 Census For England & Wales
The Green Buttington Welshpool, Cletterwood, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship to head    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Mary    Parry    Head    Widow    Female    49    1862    Dressmaker    Montg Trewen  (4 children all still living)
Sarah    Parry    Daughter    -    Female    10    1901    School    Salop Bausley

Some of William John Parry's siblings on this one

1911 Census For England & Wales
Heldre Uppington Welshpool, Uppington, Montgomeryshire, Wales
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship to head    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place
Joseph    Hughes    Head    Single    Male    36    1875    Farmer    Mont Gt Wollaston
William    Hughes    Brother    Single    Male    31    1880    Farmers brother working on farm    Mont Gt Wollaston
Alice    Hughes    Sister    Single    Female    42    1869    Housekeeper    Mont Gt Wollaston
Mary Elizabeth    Parry    Niece    Single    Female    22    1889    General servant domestic Mont Gt Wollaston
Jane    Davies    Visitor    Married    Female    39    1872    -    Mont Gt Wollaston
David Herbert    Davies    Visitor    -    Male    4    1907    -    Mont Alberbury
Margaret Jane    Parry    Niece    -    Female    13    1898    School    Mont Gt Wollaston