GREENWOOD Family in Atcham Shropshire

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adriang56
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Hi my name is Adrian and live in Australia .

Am trying to trace my family tree, have managed to find my grandfather William Henry GREENWOOD (1877-1936) have his birth certificate and his wedding certificate to Winifred Mary NENDICK (1886-1930) .

The bit where I'm stumped is that my grandfather and my dad came back to the UK following the death of his wife on the passenger list he listed as a address The Sarn Brickworks where, I have been led to believe his father was the manager there along with his other 2 sons Thomas Herbert and Samuel Edwin and his daughter Sarah Jane.

Am just wondering if there might be someone here that might be able to shed some light on a question for me.

As my father at that time was 4years old did he stay with on the uncles or the aunt?

Any help would be appreciated .

Regards

Adrian   

Gulielmus
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  Good morning Adrian,

             Regret the only information I can offer is:- The Sarn House, Old Brick Works, Westbury,Shropshire.SY59DA

    Regards Gulielmus. 

    Lovely area look it up on Google map. (use post code above)

adriang56
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Thanks for that I've got that far but I'm just wondering if there might be a newspaper heading about the GREENWOODs being there as they seem to have run the place for a decade or so starting with Thomas then I remember reading somewhere they operated another company called Thos.GREENWOOD &Sons about 1919-20 as Thomas had passed away in 1919 .

So I was sort of hoping that might have some sort of photographic evidence of the father and the children, am still waiting for my dads flight log book that my mum still has so I can see who he had listed as next of kin .

Regards

Adrian

Michael J Hulme
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 Hello Adrian

I presume you are aware that your family appear in the UK census.  If you don't have access to it at home try your local library or archives office, they almost certainly will.

In the 1871 census Thomas GREENWOOD is a Brick Maker living with his widowed mother and his brother Jacob who is also a Brick Maker at Marshe, Lower Wigmore, Westbury. Ref: RG.10/2764 folio 27 page 20.

In the 1881 census Thomas GREENWOOD is a labourer living at Wattlesborough with his family. Ref: RG.11/2645 folio 35 page 8.

In the 1891 census Thomas GREENWOOD born c.1848/9 is a Manager Brick Works (wife Eliza) with his three sons Henry born c.1876/7  Samuel born c. 1878/9 and Herbert born c.1880/1 plus daughter Sarah born c.1877/8. Ref: RG.12/2105 folio 23 page 17.

In the 1901 census Thomas GREENWOOD born c.1846/7 is a Brick & Pipe Manufacturer (wife Eliza) with his son Herbert born c.1881/2. Ref: RG.13/2534 folio 36 page 3.

In the 1911 census Thomas GREENWOOD born c.1847/8 is a Brick Manufacturer (wife Eliza) with his two sons Samuel E. born c. 1880/1 and Herbert born c.1882/3.
Ref: RG14PN16099 RG78PN994 RD349 SD4 ED3 SN21

Two pieces of mapping which are available on the Internet show the area of the brick works in some detail. You will probably need to print them out and join them together. Just make sure you have both at the same zoom level before printing otherwise they won't join up.

The 1902 map shows Sarn Brick & Pipe Works with a disused Clay Pit to the east and a Tranway leading north west.

The 1903 map shows a Tranway to a Clay Pit at the extreme right hand edge of map about half way up.
I understand your family are supposed to have built the Station Hotel which is the building just north of the railway and on the west side of the road. It can still be seen on Google Street View using the reference given by Gulielmus.

I have managed to find out that the brickyard closed about 1972 and the chimney at the brick works was demolished about 1974 when it was just over 70 years old so must have been built about 1900. The bricks made at the brickworks had "Greenwood" impressed in them and I have been told that many of them were used to build the properties along the sea front at Aberystwyth in Wales.

The brickyard used a 'Hoffman Kiln' to fire the bricks. You can find information about this type of kiln on the Internet.  If you ever come to the UK there is a virtually identical kiln at Llanymynech (search for Hoffman kiln Llanymynech) which you can walk round. This one was used as part of a limeworks rather than a brickworks but the design is the same.

I am hoping I have located some photographs of the brickworks but it will be two or three weeks before I will be able to see them and make copies so keep checking this site. I will email copies to you when I have them.

Mike

adriang56
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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you , have been very ill with a chest infection so am in the process of getting back to the tree .

Actually I'm a member of Ancestry.com.au so have got the information about the censuses.

In case you are wondering about Henry he was in Canada in 1910 still trying to figure out the reasoning behind that as I don't think or at least I can't see any listing as a home child . 

Regards

Adrian : )

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Adrian

You picked a good day to get back because this morning I managed to copy five photographs which I will email to you.

Mike

adriang56
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Thanks for that Mike don't want to sound ungrateful but I don't recall seeing the other 2 photos can you resend them please?

Regards

Adrian : )

Michael J Hulme
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I have checked the file names with Adrian and he has now received all five photos.

Mike