WOOSNAM, Evan

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DebL
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I have the following information and wondering if anyone is able to assist with any further info on the first mentioned Evan WOOSNAM below as I seem to have hit a brick wall?

Evan WOOSNAM married Eliazbeth WEAVER on 1 October 1780 at Mainstone, Shropshire.

There is a record of an Elizabeth WEAVER baptized 27 March 1758, father shown as John.

Baptism records show father, Evan WOOSNAM and mother, Elizabeth for the following children, at Mainstone: 

WOSANAM Richard - baptized 20 August 1786; WOSANAM Elizabeth - baptized 23 March 1788; WOSANHAM Jane - baptized12 July 1971; WOSANHAM Evan - 27 April 1794 (I'm assuming he died sometime prior to 1799 but unable to find a date as another Evan is born that year); WOSANHAM Margaret - baptized 18 September 1796; WOSANHAM Evan - baptized 6 May 1799. This Evan is a farmer at Penybryn, Drevor in the 1841 Wales Census. I am a descendant of this Evan.

 Deb

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Deb,

Do you subscribe to FindMyPast (FMP)? If so search on Evan WOOSNAM born 1750 +/- 10 years and you will find a burial record for Evan WOOSNAM in Bishop's Castle in 1833 aged 78 years. Thus giving his year of birth as approx. 1755.

There is a baptism of Evan WOOSNAM in 1758 in Trefeglwys, Montgomeryshire, but take care with this record as there is at least one WOOSNAM family living in that area through to at least mid-1800's. There are several Family Trees on Ancestry with the name Evan WOOSNAM.

I also found on FMP a burial of Elizabeth WOOSNAM in Bishop's Castle in 1844 aged 92 years (i.e. YOB 1752), described as a widow. Although age doesn't quite match with your Elizabeth WEAVER baptised 1758 it could be the same individual. Unfortunately I couldn't immediately find Elizabeth in 1841 Census, so it may require a painstaking page-by-page search of the Census images, starting in Bishop's Castle, before widening search to Mainstone.

The marriage Banns and parish register image on FMP) of Evan and Elizabeth is interesting as it states they were both of the parish of Mainstone at the time of their marriage, and John WEAVER was one of the witnesses. But I have been unable to find baptism of Elizabeth in Mainstone in 1750's, although several in other parishes in south-west Shropshire, including Bucknell in 1752 with father John WEAVER. Where did you find 1758 baptism?

Hope this helps

Phil Poole

DebL
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Hi Phil.

I haven't subscribed to FMP but do have credits. Have been thinking that I may need to subscribe as I am using it more and more for filling in gaps.

There are quite a few Evan WOOSNAMs and I am aware of the Trefeglwys WOOSNAM line. I've not found a link to mine as yet though - if there is one. I have about 4 WOOSNAM trees on the go and was hoping that in discovering the siblings of my Evan may have provided a link but it doesn't look that way as yet.

The baptism on Ancestry (Shropshire, England Extracted CofE Parish Records) for Elizabeth Weaver with father named John. The above occurred in Wem. There is another which occurred on 22nd July 1758 at Ludlow and has mother as Jane. Looking at a map online (I'm in Australia), considering proximity to Mainstone, Ludlow would appear to be more likely? More research needed before I commit.

 I shall investigate FMP and the 1833 death records further when time permits. I noted with interest that  Evan has signed his name, not left his mark on the marriage banns. His son Evan was also literate as were all his children.

Thanks for you help.

Deb

MM
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Hi Deb

Evan WOOSNAM, who was a Farmer in the 1841 census at Penybryn Drefor Kerry Newtown, is an ancestor of mine.  I have him down as born Mainstone 1801 and he is buried in Kerry, with his first wife, and also a number of his children.

  There is a lot of information on the website of David Gore. I have not gone back any further back but I think I have seen somewhere that his father was also called Evan.  I would be interested in finding out more information going further back.  Have you found records from Mainstone Church or are they in Shropshire archives. If there are baptism records for an Evan baptised 6 May 1799 then maybe the date of 1801 is not quite correct.  Do you mind me asking if he is your ancestor by his first marriage to Ann (this is the one that I am descended from) or his second wife Elizabeth. From the information provided by Phil Poole it looks as if the Evan WOOSNAM who married in 1780 may be buried in Bishops Castle.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

MM

DebL
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Hi MM,

I also had Evan WOOSNAM, 1841 farmer at Penybryn, with a birth of 1801. It was not until I purchased his death certificate which indicated he was probably born earlier, that I went looking beyond 1801. Thus the 1799 date. His marriage certificate to Elizabeth provided his fathers name and occupation.

I've been in contact with David Gore and managed to solve one of his Most Wanted quests regarding a grandchild of 'our' Evan and Ann.

I found the baptism in England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 and Shropshire, England Extracted CofE Parish Records.

I'd be interested in communicating off discussion to compare information but not sure how this achieved without posting address here.

Michael J Hulme
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Hello Deb and MM

With regard to the age of Evan WOOSNAM in the 1841 census (40 years) and his calculated year of birth (1801) do remember that in the 1841 census the instructions to the enumerators were that adult (anyone over 15 years old) ages were to be rounded down to the nearest five years.

This means that Evan's recorded age of 40 years could in fact have been anywhere between 40 and 44 years at the time of the census which means that his year of birth could have been anywhere between 1797 and 1801 which allows the 1799 baptism to be a possibly correct one.

Deb - I will send your email address to MM.

Mike

DebL
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Thank you Mike.

Deb